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. >> and congressman peter king says nobody will get all they want, but if president reagan and speaker o'neill could get a deal, president obama and speaker boehner should as well. >> harris: let's hope that's true. thank you. right now, a child missing, city on edge and volunteers going door-to-door to try to find young dylan. also, no longer a mysteries, but an official cause. we now know why a strip club blew up and more than 40 buildings and homes including a day care center were heavily damaged. debris for blocks. and we'll check with the firefighters injured trying to save lives. and can it get any bigger? the powerball lottery mightier and millions of americans buying tickets. are you playing? stay close. with verizon. hurry in this saturday and sunday for great deals. likehe lucid by lg, free. or the galaxy nexus by samsung, free. this weekend, get the best deals on the best devices on the best network. exclusively at verizon. >> just in, pictures of small plane that just went down within the past hour and we're looking at a soccer field at cal state north ridge north of los an
. >> and congressman peter king says nobody will get all they want, but if president reagan and speaker o'neill could get a deal, president obama and speaker boehner should as well. >> harris: let's hope that's true. thank you. right now, a child missing, city on edge and volunteers going door-to-door to try to find young dylan. also, no longer a mysteries, but an official cause. we now know why a strip club blew up and more than 40 buildings and homes including a day care center...
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you know, peter king. nice guy, good guy. i don't know he is -- how many divisions does peter king have? i don't know. >> part of this, the republican party has not developed an alternative idea set other than what they were campaigning on. is it their opening negotiation position. >> bret: we will follow every step. next up, update on the political turmoil in egypt and the administration's response. [ whistle blows ] hi victor! mom? i know you got to go in a minute but this is a real quick me, that's perfect for two! campbell's chunky beef with country vegetables, poured over rice! [ male announcer ] campbell's chunky soup. it fills you up right. this monday online only. get the droid razr by motorola in cranberry, free. or a white 7-inch samsung gaxy tab 2, just $99.99. this holiday, get the best deals on the best devices on the best network. exclusively at verizon. >>> are you concerned or critical? >> the policy is a pour choice of words. >> what is important here is that the transition to democracy will be achieved by th
you know, peter king. nice guy, good guy. i don't know he is -- how many divisions does peter king have? i don't know. >> part of this, the republican party has not developed an alternative idea set other than what they were campaigning on. is it their opening negotiation position. >> bret: we will follow every step. next up, update on the political turmoil in egypt and the administration's response. [ whistle blows ] hi victor! mom? i know you got to go in a minute but this is a...
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peter king said this two years ago, lindsey graham said this two years ago. chamblis of georgia said this two years ago. they said all these things all during the negotiations where they tried to undermine where john boehner and mitch mcconnell got 2.5 trillion in spending cuts without a dollar than tax increase and those people who are out there trying to offer tax increases undermining the rest of the republican party, undermining taxpayers and not keeping their word to the constituents who elected them. the same people are making comments now. bill: i think a lot of people on the right are not going to argue with you when they see $16 trillion in debt it just blows their minds and they think all the money that goes to washington it's not coming back home. it will only be spent and taken into a deeper hole. we have a new reality now, the wall street journel has an editorial today, it argues, let speaker john boehner debate the tax reform idea as long as he can to mitigate the damage that would come from democrats in the first place. why not allow that? >> w
peter king said this two years ago, lindsey graham said this two years ago. chamblis of georgia said this two years ago. they said all these things all during the negotiations where they tried to undermine where john boehner and mitch mcconnell got 2.5 trillion in spending cuts without a dollar than tax increase and those people who are out there trying to offer tax increases undermining the rest of the republican party, undermining taxpayers and not keeping their word to the constituents who...
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. >> gregg: new york con man peter king announced he will be stepping down from the committee. he is obligated to step down because of term limits self-imposed by the republican party as chairman he helped ensure that new york received crucial federal funding to help combat terrorism. his replacement is not yet announced. he will devote to his new time as the homeland's panel of counterterrorism subcommittee. >>> in an exclusive fox news sunday interview, senator john mccain weighing in on the debated of susan rice's potential nomination as the next secretary of state. rice has come under fire of her earlier explanation on the attack in benghazi, libya. senator mccain says he is willing to give rice an opportunity to explain herself. take a listen. there anything tt ambassador rice could do? >> sure. we give everyone the benefit of explaining that their position and the actions she took. i would be glad to have the opportunity to discuss these issues with her. >> chris: you are saying she could conceivably get your vote for secretary of state? >> i think she deserves the abilit
. >> gregg: new york con man peter king announced he will be stepping down from the committee. he is obligated to step down because of term limits self-imposed by the republican party as chairman he helped ensure that new york received crucial federal funding to help combat terrorism. his replacement is not yet announced. he will devote to his new time as the homeland's panel of counterterrorism subcommittee. >>> in an exclusive fox news sunday interview, senator john mccain...
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here is peter king on that. >> president obama won, he won fair and square. we won the house, we won it fair and square. democrats still control the senate, slight edge to the democrats. bottom line it's over with, find a way to resolve it as much as possible between now and the end of the year. bill: what they are talking about again is house revenue. mitt romney campaigned on it. >> john boehner went to the white house ten days or so ago and put revenues on the table, and, again, we don't think that raising tax rates is something that is good for this economy, that will help grow jobs. and so what we have said is there are ways for the federal government to have more revenue if we grow this economy and engage in tax reform, that is the proposal we've got on the table. let's remember what all this is about. you could put taxes at 100% on the wealthy and not solve the problem of the spending. we have got to get to the problem and stop digging this hole in terms of spending money we don't have. you're running a trillion dollars of deficit every year plus that
here is peter king on that. >> president obama won, he won fair and square. we won the house, we won it fair and square. democrats still control the senate, slight edge to the democrats. bottom line it's over with, find a way to resolve it as much as possible between now and the end of the year. bill: what they are talking about again is house revenue. mitt romney campaigned on it. >> john boehner went to the white house ten days or so ago and put revenues on the table, and, again,...
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that's what peter king told us when he came on our show among other, and mike rogers attested to that. and then a couple days later his office came out and said, it was us. we were the ones who changed the talking points to take out al-qaeda. and then mike romers said -- mike rogers, mr. clapper, can you explain why you just told us it wasn't you and you had no idea who did it? so that's why i asked if she gave you a name of who briefed her. >> no. we have not been getting a name, but i would say, megyn, that i still think that there needs to be more sufficient answers as to what agency changed the talking points and who did that, and those are some of the questions we have answers -- we expect answers to. and also why they did that. it's absurd to me to think that you would omit the reference of al-qaeda. so we didn't want to tip al-qaeda off? and particularly since it's very important that the american people not be left a misleading impression which is what happened here. and not only did it happen, if the intelligence community knee why buy the 22nd this was wrong, how come we wer
that's what peter king told us when he came on our show among other, and mike rogers attested to that. and then a couple days later his office came out and said, it was us. we were the ones who changed the talking points to take out al-qaeda. and then mike romers said -- mike rogers, mr. clapper, can you explain why you just told us it wasn't you and you had no idea who did it? so that's why i asked if she gave you a name of who briefed her. >> no. we have not been getting a name, but i...
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saxby chambliss, peter king, these are thoughtful, smart, principled leaders. and they are fiscal conservatives. they are anti-tax. i don't think a pledge should define anybody. i'm not a fan of pledges. i think you pledge to your god. i think you pledge to your constituents. you pledge to your country. the kind of representative i want going to washington is somebody that's going to act out of conviction, out of conscience, out of what his constituents want and not because they are being told to through a pledge. it's taking a lot of cowage for what saxby chambliss and lindsey graham are doing. both of these guys just earned themselves a primary as a result of these statements. and i will tell the people of georgia and of south carolina, you are very well served by those two senators. i hope they win. i hope they get re-elected. they're doing a fine job. saxby, lindsey, call me, no pledges for me. i pledge to help you. >> i think they're doing what they should do, which is their job at representing the people. but l.c., let me ask you this. graham has said tha
saxby chambliss, peter king, these are thoughtful, smart, principled leaders. and they are fiscal conservatives. they are anti-tax. i don't think a pledge should define anybody. i'm not a fan of pledges. i think you pledge to your god. i think you pledge to your constituents. you pledge to your country. the kind of representative i want going to washington is somebody that's going to act out of conviction, out of conscience, out of what his constituents want and not because they are being told...
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republican congressman, peter king, responded. >> the fact he brought my wife into it. i don't think he has ever met me, certainly never met my wife. he better hope he doesn't. she will knock his head off. >> king also explained why norquist is wrong on substance. >> i did sign a pledge back in 1996, during the whole conflict with the clinton administration over the government shutdown. i was totally opposed to any tax increases at that time. but to say that a pledge on an issue like taxes would last for a lifetime is ridiculous. ronald reagan raised taxes a number of times because that's what he had to do to close the deal. >> when norquist started his anti-tax pledge, the deficit was $220 billion. now, it tops $1 trillion. this is a turning point for the gop or at least it could be. the other thing you need to know about is the money trail. in 2010, 66% of funding for americans for tax reform, norquist's group, came from two billionaire groups, according to an investigation by the nation magazine, karl rove's group, crossroads gps, gave $4 million. the center to prote
republican congressman, peter king, responded. >> the fact he brought my wife into it. i don't think he has ever met me, certainly never met my wife. he better hope he doesn't. she will knock his head off. >> king also explained why norquist is wrong on substance. >> i did sign a pledge back in 1996, during the whole conflict with the clinton administration over the government shutdown. i was totally opposed to any tax increases at that time. but to say that a pledge on an...
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now, here's peter king from this morning. >> i myself am opposed to tax increases. they are going to be in a room trying to find the best prackag. we should not be making iron clad positions. so far he's pretty conciliatory in his language. >> so pretty hopeful as the clock particulars towards january 1st and the fiscal cliff, some call it a fiscal slope, some people are talking about it as a way to force people to really come to the table and there's one things that republicans are insisting on that they say they are opened to and that is entitlement reform. alex? >> okay. mike viquera at the white house. joining me is andy sullivan. thank you for being back. eleanor, i'll start with you. let's listen to dick durbin and lindsey graham today. >> okay. >> there's a bipartisan bill passed by the senate that will spare 98% of taxpayers across america from any income tax raises and 90% of the businesses. it's a bipartisan bill the house should pass to make sure we go forward with these negotiations without this specter of tax increases for working families. >> i'm willi
now, here's peter king from this morning. >> i myself am opposed to tax increases. they are going to be in a room trying to find the best prackag. we should not be making iron clad positions. so far he's pretty conciliatory in his language. >> so pretty hopeful as the clock particulars towards january 1st and the fiscal cliff, some call it a fiscal slope, some people are talking about it as a way to force people to really come to the table and there's one things that republicans are...
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take a listen, sir. >> everybody who signed the pledge, including peter king who tried to weasel out of it, shame on him as the new york sun said today, i hope his wife understands that commitments last a little longer than two years or something. >> so, mr. moran, air cording to mr. norquist, if peter king changes his mind in order to help the very people you just described that will thereby help the american economy, then he's more likely to commit adultery? is that what he's saying? >> his wife should be far more ashamed of peter if he were to let himself be bullied by this guy grover. i mean, grover seems to be a mild-tempered guy but he employs these bullying intimidation tactics. the republican party should say, look, i'm bigging than that, i answer to my quaeconstituents. who are you to tell me how i can best served the needs of this country. grover norquist couldn't get elected to anything, dog catcher even. yet he's out there intimidating all these folks that some of whom really want to do the right thing and now is the time when they have to do the right thing, when they ha
take a listen, sir. >> everybody who signed the pledge, including peter king who tried to weasel out of it, shame on him as the new york sun said today, i hope his wife understands that commitments last a little longer than two years or something. >> so, mr. moran, air cording to mr. norquist, if peter king changes his mind in order to help the very people you just described that will thereby help the american economy, then he's more likely to commit adultery? is that what he's...
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we are joined by peter king. chairman of the homeland community. good to see you. >> good to be with you. martha: if susan rice is indeed considered for secretary of state we need to know where she stands on the issue of al-qaida and whether or not she believes that al-qaida is still a threat, is a growing threat. she says they were decimated. perhaps that is the most important thing that needs to come out of these discussions, what does she really believe about al-qaida in this region? >> right, martha, benghazi we're talking about the past, it's very important but it is the past. despite what susan rice this is about the status of al-qaida that will determine the policy over the next several years going into the future. i agree entirely with aepb ayotte. we see al-qaida growing and expanding throughout the middle east. either al-qaida or it's franchises growing and expanding, in many ways the threat is greater now than on 9/11. for susan rice not to understand that is alarming. martha: when she talked about what happened in benghazi and attribute
we are joined by peter king. chairman of the homeland community. good to see you. >> good to be with you. martha: if susan rice is indeed considered for secretary of state we need to know where she stands on the issue of al-qaida and whether or not she believes that al-qaida is still a threat, is a growing threat. she says they were decimated. perhaps that is the most important thing that needs to come out of these discussions, what does she really believe about al-qaida in this region?...
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. >> the pledge is not for life, but everybody who signed the pledge, including peter king who tried to weasel out of it, shame on him as the new york sun said today, i hope his wife understands that commitments last a little longer than two years or something. no pledge taker has voted for a tax increase. they've had some people discussing impure thoughts on national television. the same thing with other people who are elected because they made that written commitment to the people of their state. >> that sounds like a threat. >> why does he keep making this romantic sexual thing? >> don't make it sexual! >> impure thoughts? romance and marriage? >> he's really sad. he's a little heartbroken here. he's had a lot of his life in this sacred oath, and they're discarding it like it was nothing. dan, two grover's point, you know, are those republicans having just impure thoughts as he put it, or are they willing to move away from the pledge and actually when it comes down to it not just increase revenues through closing loopholes but increase the rates? >> this is the reason why we shoul
. >> the pledge is not for life, but everybody who signed the pledge, including peter king who tried to weasel out of it, shame on him as the new york sun said today, i hope his wife understands that commitments last a little longer than two years or something. no pledge taker has voted for a tax increase. they've had some people discussing impure thoughts on national television. the same thing with other people who are elected because they made that written commitment to the people of...
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we heard over the weekend senator lindsey graham, congressman peter king, joining in --. megyn: but they're talking about closing loopholes and deductions that is what romney ran on and it has been republican position for a while. >> they just discovered it. where were they when the republican standard-bearer needed that support? there is lack of intellectual integrity surrounding this entire issue. if they had any shame in washington, d.c. they would be embarassed. >> they are political animals. they have to think what is sellable to their constituents. when the simpson-bowles debt commission got together and we have to tackle the debt and it will kill us all, they said, what if we raised the age of social security retirement one year. went to 68. did it in 30 years. not going to do it right now, 30 years. dick durbin, wanted that. i will sign onto that, a democrat. we don't have the time. we have a dick durbin sound bite. dick durbin said that. he was in favor of that. >> i can't stand it. we're losing dick durbin sound bite. megyn: time is short. the point dick durbin
we heard over the weekend senator lindsey graham, congressman peter king, joining in --. megyn: but they're talking about closing loopholes and deductions that is what romney ran on and it has been republican position for a while. >> they just discovered it. where were they when the republican standard-bearer needed that support? there is lack of intellectual integrity surrounding this entire issue. if they had any shame in washington, d.c. they would be embarassed. >> they are...
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>> preliminary lies that you -- >> stephanie: peter king yesterday said -- republican peter king said although she's done an effective job at the u.n., on this, she was wrong. he said if she set out there to speak to the american people about what happened on benghazi, she's obligated to look at more than three sentences on unclassified talking points because it was basically a cover story. no, it wasn't. it was the best information they had at the time. he insisted rice's position gives her access to classified information. it is an obligation not to just be a puppet. >> stephanie: she's supposed to improvise on classified information. >> just tell all of the classified information. there is a reason it is classified. >> stephanie: oh, is that the part i wasn't supposed to say to tick off al-qaeda? susan rice yesterday. >> i do think some of the statements you've made about me have been unfounded but i look forward to having the opportunity at the appropriate time to discuss all of this with him. >> it is not the policy! >> stephanie: she's not the problem. it is the president. so --
>> preliminary lies that you -- >> stephanie: peter king yesterday said -- republican peter king said although she's done an effective job at the u.n., on this, she was wrong. he said if she set out there to speak to the american people about what happened on benghazi, she's obligated to look at more than three sentences on unclassified talking points because it was basically a cover story. no, it wasn't. it was the best information they had at the time. he insisted rice's position...
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king among other republicans who said they'd be willing to break away from grover norquist's anti-tax pledge. will you say if you're willing to break that pledge in order to save the country from the fiscal cliff. >> hello, thomas. and first of all, i signed that pledge two years ago, and the reason i signed it is because i think increasing tax rates, increasing the amount of money that the federal government takes away from job creators is going to harm economic growth and economic growth is the number one component to a solution. what all these senators are saying is they'll take a look at their pledge only if the president puts forward his plan. how is he going to close the other part of that deficit? you know, his proposal right now, the most he can say would raise would be about $68 billion when our deficit last year was $90 billion. what is the president's plan for closing the additional additional $1 trillion worth of deficit? i think that's incumbent on the president to put forward his plan. >> from your standpoint alone, there's no way you see fit in the coming 35 days that y
king among other republicans who said they'd be willing to break away from grover norquist's anti-tax pledge. will you say if you're willing to break that pledge in order to save the country from the fiscal cliff. >> hello, thomas. and first of all, i signed that pledge two years ago, and the reason i signed it is because i think increasing tax rates, increasing the amount of money that the federal government takes away from job creators is going to harm economic growth and economic...
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lindsey graham, saxby chambliss, bob corker and peter king, they've said they're willing to compromise and consider revenue increases to avoid the fiscal clifft. their shift in position has grover norquist vowing to help unseat any republican who breaks his taxpayer protection pledge. the question tonight is whether this is a larger trend or whether republicans are just testing the waters and two men who know about testing the waters, politicking and actually meaning what you say join me now. david frum and james carville, you have been on every side of this. let me start with you though david. republicans talking about raising revenue by closing loopholes. you can get a heck of a lot of revenue that way. is this smart for them r or not? >> republicans are going to be yielding grown, but they have to avoid it under pressure. president has a strong hand. they have to keep their party together. frankly, i think loopholes are the -- so-called loopholes, deductions for home mortgage, at this point, the wrong place to look for new revenue. the place is look is with different kinds of tax s.
lindsey graham, saxby chambliss, bob corker and peter king, they've said they're willing to compromise and consider revenue increases to avoid the fiscal clifft. their shift in position has grover norquist vowing to help unseat any republican who breaks his taxpayer protection pledge. the question tonight is whether this is a larger trend or whether republicans are just testing the waters and two men who know about testing the waters, politicking and actually meaning what you say join me now....
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but everybody who signed the pledge including peter king who tried y ed tied to weasel out oe on him as the new york sun said today, i hope his wife understands the commitments last a little longer than two years or something. but you don't tell the bank, oh, the mortgage, wasn't that a long time ago? if you make a commitment, you keep it. >> now, despite what he said it likely that high earners will pay higher taxes. what sort of benefits could others lose in this trade-off? something has got to give, doesn't it? one idea, get rid of the tax benefit that homeowners get by being able to deduct mortgage interests. hold on. don't throw the remote at the tv set. i know it is a popular deduction. i know you like it. but it costs the feds $100 billion a year in -- and it is a dubious benefit to the federal government. the housing industry opposes getting rid of it because it fears that home sales will collapse again, just when housing is starting to make a comeback. the national association of realtors spent an estimated $25 million this year to lobby lawmakers against canning it. the mor
but everybody who signed the pledge including peter king who tried y ed tied to weasel out oe on him as the new york sun said today, i hope his wife understands the commitments last a little longer than two years or something. but you don't tell the bank, oh, the mortgage, wasn't that a long time ago? if you make a commitment, you keep it. >> now, despite what he said it likely that high earners will pay higher taxes. what sort of benefits could others lose in this trade-off? something...
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peter king knows -- congressman peter king of new york noknows full well the pledge he signed and others, it's for while you're in congress, not a two-year period. >> it sounded to me he was sort of saying you have to re-up it for it to be legal or whatever the right word is. >> first of all, it's explained to everyone when they sign, it's in writing with them when they sign that it's a commitment while you're in -- while you're in the house or while you're in the senate. you run for a different office, you take it again. and so the congressman from ohio is leaving -- it doesn't pass the laugh test. that's an odd position. if you want to go to your voters and say i promised you this and i'm breaking my promise, you can have that conversation with them. but you don't have an argument with me. you've made a commitment to your voters. >> but it is, to some degree, i know you like to sort of step back and act as if that you don't really have that much to do with the pledge. but the pledge does come from you. i've read a lot. last week when we were talking you sort of said the same thing. we'
peter king knows -- congressman peter king of new york noknows full well the pledge he signed and others, it's for while you're in congress, not a two-year period. >> it sounded to me he was sort of saying you have to re-up it for it to be legal or whatever the right word is. >> first of all, it's explained to everyone when they sign, it's in writing with them when they sign that it's a commitment while you're in -- while you're in the house or while you're in the senate. you run...
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we did hear from peter king, a congressman. no many house members are running to the microphones to renounce grover norquist's tax pledge. isn't that where we're going to have the most trouble, will? >> yeah. you definitely have the most trouble in the house of representatives. look, republicans are still dedicated to a low tax principle. they still want to achieve that. the problem is i used to own businesses, carol. i used to buy and sell newspapers. i didn't get to tidictate the price. >> i think you in your passionate hand gesture you knocked your microphone off. >> did i really? you just missed genius. you missed genius. >> i was so eager to hear what you were saying. >> i've got to quit gesticulating so much. >> you're not even -- >> will cain, jason johnson, thanks so much for being with us. >> thank you. >>> actor morgan freeman is putting his voice behind a new ad touting the election day victories in three states to legalize same-sex marriage. >> freedom, justice and human dignity have always guided our journey toward
we did hear from peter king, a congressman. no many house members are running to the microphones to renounce grover norquist's tax pledge. isn't that where we're going to have the most trouble, will? >> yeah. you definitely have the most trouble in the house of representatives. look, republicans are still dedicated to a low tax principle. they still want to achieve that. the problem is i used to own businesses, carol. i used to buy and sell newspapers. i didn't get to tidictate the price....
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but everybody who signed the pledge, including peter king who tried to weasel out of it, shame on him as the new york sun said today, i hope his wife understands that commitments last a little longer than, than, than two years or something. >> and zoraida, there you have grover norquist -- >> weeks. >> -- of course, from the americans for tax reform throwing out some pretty strong political hyperbole. but the fact of the matter is, as you said, fiscal cliff, 35 days away, and as we've heard from a lot of economists, if congress can't fix this, then we're in a lot of trouble. we can be heading back into recession. >> mark preston live in washington, d.c. thank you for that. so even if democrats and republicans get a spending deal done in time to steer clear of the fiscal cliff, derer thompson says it won't necessarily cure the economy. the senior editor of "the atlantic" joins us live in the next half hour. he has an interesting perspective. >>> ambassador susan rice heads to capitol hill this morning to mend fences with three republican senators. john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly
but everybody who signed the pledge, including peter king who tried to weasel out of it, shame on him as the new york sun said today, i hope his wife understands that commitments last a little longer than, than, than two years or something. >> and zoraida, there you have grover norquist -- >> weeks. >> -- of course, from the americans for tax reform throwing out some pretty strong political hyperbole. but the fact of the matter is, as you said, fiscal cliff, 35 days away, and...
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peter king yesterday. >> i agree entirely, a pledge you signed 18 years ago is for that congress. if i were in congress in 1841 i would have signed the declaration of war against japan, but i'm not going to go to war against japan today. >> bill: now listen to his follow up. >> i think everybody should be on the table. i myself am opposed to tax increases. i agree with trying to find the best practice. i have faith in john boehner. i think so far he has been pretty conciliatory in his language. >> bill: but no tax increases. also yesterday on one of the sunday shows on "this week." >> when you are $16 trillion in debt, the only pledge we should be making to each other is to avoid the coming brief and republicans should put revenue on the table. we are this far in debt capping deductions will help generate revenue. >> bill: oh, there again, yeah. no new revenue, yes. but not raising taxes. lindsay graham goes on to something else that he throws out here. >> i agree with we shouldn't raise rates, but i think grover is wrong. what do you do with the money? buy down debt and cut rates
peter king yesterday. >> i agree entirely, a pledge you signed 18 years ago is for that congress. if i were in congress in 1841 i would have signed the declaration of war against japan, but i'm not going to go to war against japan today. >> bill: now listen to his follow up. >> i think everybody should be on the table. i myself am opposed to tax increases. i agree with trying to find the best practice. i have faith in john boehner. i think so far he has been pretty...
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you're talking about guys, you know, in saxby chambliss, peter king, coker, lindsey graham, who have been fiscal conservatives their entire lives. so it's very hard, i think, to make the argument. i think it's silly, also, to have this circular fire squad against good republicans who have been getting elected, and, you know, in order -- i think it's silly to take a circular fire squad and take him out during a primary, because of some piece of paper that got signed or not signed, lived up to or not lived up to. if, in fact, they are fiscal conservatives, which is the entire point of this discussion. we are losing the point of it. because we're getting so hung up on this, you know, piece of paper. i really find it somewhat silly, the entire thing. >> some people have suggested there is an interesting procedural solution to this idea, and that would be to actually let everything go off the cliff, even just for a day. what would happen then is the tax rates would automatically go up on everyone. again, even just a day. then on january 2nd or oh january 3rd or january 4th, everyone could
you're talking about guys, you know, in saxby chambliss, peter king, coker, lindsey graham, who have been fiscal conservatives their entire lives. so it's very hard, i think, to make the argument. i think it's silly, also, to have this circular fire squad against good republicans who have been getting elected, and, you know, in order -- i think it's silly to take a circular fire squad and take him out during a primary, because of some piece of paper that got signed or not signed, lived up to or...
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we wishing you the best on avoiding the fistcal cliff. >> new york congressman peter king is stepping down. the republican representative chaired the committee for seven he years. the republicans imposed a 6 year limit. king did get a waiver and is wrapping up his 7th year. it's unclear who will replace him. some speculate it will be less federal terror funding for new york. >> the president will hold meetings with key lawmakers to work out a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. some express hope compromise will be worked out. others are concerned the divide between the parties will block that. >> we need to try to find a way to have the debates about policy and get to the point of compromise when possible but to do as much as we can to keep partisan politics out of the equation. >> i would say first partnership, i believe, is important if it's done right. you don't have democracy without parties. the problem -- and there are legitimate differences. the problem is when those differences become so i am bittered -- imbittered people cannot compromise. >> both agree cuts have to be made and n
we wishing you the best on avoiding the fistcal cliff. >> new york congressman peter king is stepping down. the republican representative chaired the committee for seven he years. the republicans imposed a 6 year limit. king did get a waiver and is wrapping up his 7th year. it's unclear who will replace him. some speculate it will be less federal terror funding for new york. >> the president will hold meetings with key lawmakers to work out a deal to avoid the fiscal cliff. some...
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peter king said the same on "meet the press." what say you about the norquist pledge? you're a signatory. >> i really am surprised about the obsession with this one individual that doesn't compare at all to the lack of obsession about the economic doldrums that we're in as a nation. look, people didn't sign that pledge because they were coerced into it. people signed that pledge because it encompasses the kinds of solutions that will move us in the right direction. increasing tax rates on the american people and on small businesses means you take money from people, money from small businesses, and you transfer it to the government. we don't believe that that's the wise place to do that. we believe that those dollars are best spent and the economy is helped most when those dollars are left in people's pockets and small businesses. so why folks would negotiate with themselves about whether or not they still think that that's a positive economic principle, is beyond me. >> well, presuming that you can get a balanced approach which what is the president wants, which means
peter king said the same on "meet the press." what say you about the norquist pledge? you're a signatory. >> i really am surprised about the obsession with this one individual that doesn't compare at all to the lack of obsession about the economic doldrums that we're in as a nation. look, people didn't sign that pledge because they were coerced into it. people signed that pledge because it encompasses the kinds of solutions that will move us in the right direction. increasing...
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because we have seen in the last few days, saxby chambliss lindsey graham, peter king, bob corker is the other one who said we're not bound by this. we don't feel we're bound by this pledge anymore. chuck schumer yesterday dan indicating that this -- he sees this as a good sign. >> republicans in both the house and senate are deciding they no longer want to be married to this pledge. republicans are saying they want a divorce from grover norquist. that alone is a leading indicator that the fiscal deal is within reach. both sides are still far apart. the discussions over the next few weeks will be difficult but with each new republican disavowing grover norquist, the chances of a deal rises sharply. >> bill: daniella, is grover over? >> oh, please, lord, let it be true! you know, i think so. there was a funny thing politico arena they ask these questions every day. one of the questions a couple of days ago was is grover norquist's reign over. the first person who responded was grover norquist. no. republicans are -- blah, blah, blah. >> bill: he says his pledge is the same as your maj
because we have seen in the last few days, saxby chambliss lindsey graham, peter king, bob corker is the other one who said we're not bound by this. we don't feel we're bound by this pledge anymore. chuck schumer yesterday dan indicating that this -- he sees this as a good sign. >> republicans in both the house and senate are deciding they no longer want to be married to this pledge. republicans are saying they want a divorce from grover norquist. that alone is a leading indicator that...
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whether it is lindsey graham, peter king, john mccain, on and on, similar comment over the weekend. if another republican is watching that, what would you say to them if they areethinking about breaking this pledge? >> let's distinguish with what boehner have said. i certainly agree, if the economy grew at 4% instead of 2% for the next decade, the federal government would net an additional $5 trillion. you could pay all of obama's death down. connell: that is not what he is talking about. >> okay. i am sorry. what he said is what i said. what obama claims he said is a separate matter. boehner was very clear. obama said, oh, you have agreed to tax increases. the talks collapsed because obama misstated. connell: what you say to republicans who are thinking about breaking the pledge? >> look, most republicans have signed the pledge. even the ones who have not have made it very clear even when they ran for office, higher taxes have hurt the economy. they have spent too much money. the entitlements are looking to break the economy. we need to spend less. raising taxes to get the politici
whether it is lindsey graham, peter king, john mccain, on and on, similar comment over the weekend. if another republican is watching that, what would you say to them if they areethinking about breaking this pledge? >> let's distinguish with what boehner have said. i certainly agree, if the economy grew at 4% instead of 2% for the next decade, the federal government would net an additional $5 trillion. you could pay all of obama's death down. connell: that is not what he is talking about....
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on japan. >> i know. >> it's not just peter king on the taxes. it's a big step, don't you think? >> it's a big step. >> grover. yeah, grover's taking a big hit since the election. there's no doubt about it. i think john, you'd verify this. number of republicans, i've talked to a couple of united states senators who said there's at least 10 to 12 republican senators who are willing to walk away from grover norquist on the tax pledge. >> it's breaking out all over. sanity is contagious. >> now, the question is, is the president going to stay where he is and go, you know what? we're going to do it my way or no other way? we're going to raise it to 90 -- to 39.6%. steve rattner had a great column yesterday. >> it's a must-read. >> you know there's more than one way to skin a cat, more than one way to raise over a trillion dollars in revenues. it doesn't just have to be the president's way. is the white house going to insist on the 39.6% tax rate, or will they consider the loophole part of it plus capital gains, plus a couple of other things? >> well,
on japan. >> i know. >> it's not just peter king on the taxes. it's a big step, don't you think? >> it's a big step. >> grover. yeah, grover's taking a big hit since the election. there's no doubt about it. i think john, you'd verify this. number of republicans, i've talked to a couple of united states senators who said there's at least 10 to 12 republican senators who are willing to walk away from grover norquist on the tax pledge. >> it's breaking out all over....
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congressman peter king republican in new york feels the same way. take a listen to him. >> i think everything should be on the table. i myself am opposed to tax increases. the fact is the speaker and majority leader and the president are going to be in a room trying to find the best package. i'm not going to prejudge it. i'm saying we should not be taking ironclad positions. >> king says while the pledge may have worked in the past, now is the time to be flexible. zoraida? >> all right. paul steinhauser live in washington, d.c. for us. thank you. >> 33 minutes after the hour right now. just lots of buying this weekend. lots of shopping. a record $247 million shoppers hit stores and websites after thanksgiving. ed national retail federation says they also spent more money compared to last year. but -- will shoppers still be in a spending mood today? which, of course, is named cyber monday. christine romans is here with us. >> who named it cyber monday? hmm. the industry did! because once they saw that you would open up your wallet for black friday, t
congressman peter king republican in new york feels the same way. take a listen to him. >> i think everything should be on the table. i myself am opposed to tax increases. the fact is the speaker and majority leader and the president are going to be in a room trying to find the best package. i'm not going to prejudge it. i'm saying we should not be taking ironclad positions. >> king says while the pledge may have worked in the past, now is the time to be flexible. zoraida? >>...
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peter king is also saying he's going to go against the pledge who agreed to it years and years and his reasoning that times have changed. here is the caviat . you are a republican and don't want to raise taxes and willing to compromise a bit, the democrats have to compromise with entitlement spending there. is a way here to find common ground and get away from the all or nothing pledges that the american public many of them were upset about the grid lock. >> brian: it is all symbolic. that brings 80 billion a year and would pay ian volving credit but it doesn't touch our deficit or balance our budget and the other thing that is important they have to get something in return. we'll put it up on the clinton rates and not touch medicare or medicaid? it is all part of the deal. >> gretchen: once you get people back to the table. it is it like a marriage, marriages don't work when one party said i will not budge on anything. >> brian: i hope my wife is listening. >> steve: we are in the let's make a deal stage. both sides want to appear flexibility when it comes to doing something. we aappa
peter king is also saying he's going to go against the pledge who agreed to it years and years and his reasoning that times have changed. here is the caviat . you are a republican and don't want to raise taxes and willing to compromise a bit, the democrats have to compromise with entitlement spending there. is a way here to find common ground and get away from the all or nothing pledges that the american public many of them were upset about the grid lock. >> brian: it is all symbolic....
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. >> everybody who signed the pledge including peter king who tried to weasel out of it, shame on him as the new york sun said today. >> new york sun? >> understands that commitments last a little longer than two years or something. >> oh, you're comparing your stupid little pledge to his marriage to his wife. oh, i see. what? all right you're really priceless, grover, grover, grover, grover. ♪ >> yeah, he he's going off the deep end getting personal like that. i'm for getting rid of p.b.s. if it gets rid of grover. >> stephanie: kids, what's fun in one word? soda stream, right? >> yeah. >> stephanie: fun! wow! there was a lot of annoying kids in that commercial. it's a new way to enjoy soda made at home in less than 30 seconds. right? it took a lot longer than that to get to the park off the transit. >> fun? that's what they said at that german zoo. >> stephanie: stop it. [buzzer] >> stephanie: it's the ultimate holiday gift. seriously, everybody loves it, moms dads, kids, teenagers. >> even kids with chicken pox. >> stephanie: kids that climb on rocks. stop with the childhood comm
. >> everybody who signed the pledge including peter king who tried to weasel out of it, shame on him as the new york sun said today. >> new york sun? >> understands that commitments last a little longer than two years or something. >> oh, you're comparing your stupid little pledge to his marriage to his wife. oh, i see. what? all right you're really priceless, grover, grover, grover, grover. ♪ >> yeah, he he's going off the deep end getting personal like that....
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then the chairman of house homeland security committee, peter king. >> the only pledge we should make is avoid becoming greece. republicans should put revenue on the table. >> i think everything should be on the table. i myself am opposed to tax increases. the fact the speaker and majority leader and president will be in another room trying to find the best package. i will not prejudge it. jon: joining us now for a fair and balanced debate the doug thorn former communication is chairman for the democratic national committee and congressman chris van hollen. ron bonjean for. former aide to house speaker dennis hastert. has grover norquist lost his will? >> speaker boehner said revenues would be on the table as well as spending cuts and entitlement reform but we would not raise tax rates. i have seen nothing different than what these senators have said in the last day or so than what speaker boehner has said. the key here is the devil is in the details. once we see some sort of fine print in the next couple weeks, we'll know, you know, we'll know whether our legislators stand. one inter
then the chairman of house homeland security committee, peter king. >> the only pledge we should make is avoid becoming greece. republicans should put revenue on the table. >> i think everything should be on the table. i myself am opposed to tax increases. the fact the speaker and majority leader and president will be in another room trying to find the best package. i will not prejudge it. jon: joining us now for a fair and balanced debate the doug thorn former communication is...
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you now have eric cantor, saxby chambliss, peter king, lindsey graham and bob corker all saying to some degree or another that they would be willing to step back from it. certainly encouraging, but as you saw in that piece from a while ago from athena, there is still some distance between both sides as the clock winds down. >> and, dan, folks who came from those meetings with the president last week and they say that he in those meetings spoke very generally about the possibility of reforming these entitlement programs, big programs like medicare, medicaid, that type of thing, is the white house willing to put on the table specifics regarding the kinds of reforms in those big, big entitlement programs? >> if so, this is something that is happening behind closed dooshz, and they're not saying so publically. republicans have been looking at the health care reform law since the election time now, during the campaign to try to roll it back, to have it repealed. many attempts there. they were hoping that if they had won the election, that they could have also repealed it then, and now, of co
you now have eric cantor, saxby chambliss, peter king, lindsey graham and bob corker all saying to some degree or another that they would be willing to step back from it. certainly encouraging, but as you saw in that piece from a while ago from athena, there is still some distance between both sides as the clock winds down. >> and, dan, folks who came from those meetings with the president last week and they say that he in those meetings spoke very generally about the possibility of...
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lindsey graham said exactly that and peter king did too. it is against raising taxes. there are other ways to do revenue. the democrats don't like those other ways. it is called growth. that brings in more revenue. and readjusting the tax code to bring in more revenue. you don't have to raise taxes on anybody. host: let's go to jim in new castle, delaware, on our republican line. caller: good morning. the reason we have to be against tax increases and for spending cuts is to just show that we are a different party than the national sociologist parted as running the white house and the senate right now. economic growth is being held back by the gigantic government in this country. have to go over= a cliff. right now we have to change the business cycle. washington is getting bigger and we are getting closer to the final disaster. republicans have to stand for something. it cannot just be democrat light. i am a republican and am pretty disgusted by what going on in the republican party. we need to get some conservatives running. we cannot just keep nominating the next gu
lindsey graham said exactly that and peter king did too. it is against raising taxes. there are other ways to do revenue. the democrats don't like those other ways. it is called growth. that brings in more revenue. and readjusting the tax code to bring in more revenue. you don't have to raise taxes on anybody. host: let's go to jim in new castle, delaware, on our republican line. caller: good morning. the reason we have to be against tax increases and for spending cuts is to just show that we...
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king, they're willing to break the grover norquist pledge and consider new revenue. is this really anything new? >> no. all right. next question? first of all they're not saying anything new first of all. they're not saying we're willing to talk about rates -- >> bill: in fact they're saying they'll vote against rates -- getting rid of the bush tax cuts. >> this is not a change in policy at all. that's number one. number two these are -- senate republicans who don't have a lot of influence in this particular subject area. they're not the most -- they're not the biggest players. third, they're senate republicans. we need house republicans to change their minds. so i said this in my blog yesterday, this is not as significant as it seems and all of those who made such a big deal about it over the weekend are missing the key point. it is not a change in policy and two, look who it is. it is not that important. when i see some tea party switching and eric cantor saying we need some rate change, then you'll know something serious has changed. >> bill: stan's blog is capita
king, they're willing to break the grover norquist pledge and consider new revenue. is this really anything new? >> no. all right. next question? first of all they're not saying anything new first of all. they're not saying we're willing to talk about rates -- >> bill: in fact they're saying they'll vote against rates -- getting rid of the bush tax cuts. >> this is not a change in policy at all. that's number one. number two these are -- senate republicans who don't have a lot...
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and peter king on susan rice. the most important question for the potential secretary of state may be what does she really believe about the threat of al-qaeda? bill and i will see you on that and much more at the top of the hour [ female announcer ] a classic meatloaf recipe from stouffer's starts with ground beef, unions, and peppers baked in a ketchup glaze with savory gravy and mashed russet potatoes. what makes stouffer's meatloaf best of all? that moment you enjoy it at home. stouffer's. let's fix dinner. >> brian: he's one of country music's hottest new artists with his debut album hitting number one in the charts. thanks to this single "cowboys and angels." >> steve: now country singer dustin lynch is out with his second single and he joins us live in just a moment. you'll be performing "che cranks my tractor, which is the perfect song for the holidays. >> definitely is. the video is perfect also. >> steve: was that tease accurate? you got a c in music? >> i did, yeah. i got a c. >> brian: how can that be?
and peter king on susan rice. the most important question for the potential secretary of state may be what does she really believe about the threat of al-qaeda? bill and i will see you on that and much more at the top of the hour [ female announcer ] a classic meatloaf recipe from stouffer's starts with ground beef, unions, and peppers baked in a ketchup glaze with savory gravy and mashed russet potatoes. what makes stouffer's meatloaf best of all? that moment you enjoy it at home. stouffer's....